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Yasou. Selam. Merhaba. etc etc etc... What you all fail to realise is there were no borders between us all, thousands of years ago. We all spoke in totally different languages than we do now. The only thing that is seperating us all is borders, languages and our governments. I love all TURKS, AZERIS, ARMENIANS, IRANIANS, PASHTUNS, AFGHANIS, ARABS, PAKISTANIS, KURDS, GREEKS and any other race which is from that area. You are all my brothers and sisters. I am part Kurdish, Persian and Azeri. (Believe it or not, its true.) and one of my closest friends is Armenian. I am going to become a journalist for the middle-east soon and I am going to learn all the languages of that area because I am fascinated by my ancestry. Basically you all have to realise that we all come from the same area therefore we all brothers and sisters. Its hard to explain but I understand you are all hurt by the decisions of our Governments, but you must realise that these are the governments and not the people of the country which make a living. There are many ways that we are connected for instance: Nearly all the languages of my love Middle-East say: Dunya= World Jan,Jaan & Can= Life Dost= Friend There are many words which are the same but I cant think of them now. The people are not the enemy, its our corrupt governments and its a huge country which has caused us all to hate each other and that is the USA. So If we put our hands together and unite ourselves like Europe has we can be as successful and as powerful as the USA. I hope I have been able to make sense. Peace in the middle-east, my middle-east (Not Americas) Sam
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Black Garden: Armenia and Azerbaijan Through Peace and War Ready To Buy? Our price: $35.00 OR Also Available Internationally OR Bookmark it! By: Thomas De Waal Publisher: New York University Press Sales Rank: 67,031 Media: Hardcover Release Date: May, 2003 Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours Customer Reviews Average customer rating: A Rare Portrait of an Historic Region There are very few books published on Karabagh (Artsakh). The author discusses the events leading up to the war from both Armenian and Azerbaijani perspectives. Unlike other books which tend to be dry historical accounts, this book presents the rich culture and history of the region and how and what conditions led to the war and what possibilities if any exist for peace in the region. Highly recommended. Book by Tom de Waal (Reviewed in April 2003) The book is a major milestone in the Western scholarship on Karabakh. It is probably the only serious work that attempts to take a balanced view of the conflict, and it mostly succeeds, occasionally at the expense of accuracy. The book's strength is in the many dozens of interviews de Waal conducted on both sides of the conflict line with politicians, military commanders and regular people affected by the war and its aftermath. He may also be the first to research Politburo archives from the 1980s that have just recently become available. It must have been hard work but it paid off, producing probably the most complete Western narrative of the Karabakh conflict that casts aside many of the popular conspiracies about the conflict and highlights the largely spontaneous nature of history in the Caucasus. De Waal's is also a very readable book and does not merely regurgitate the chronology of events.In his study of the conflict, De Waal reaches two key conclusions: - The Karabakh conflict was not engineered by Moscow (as is still widely believed). It started on the ground between Armenians and Azeris, and Soviet leadership tried but failed to contain it. Conflict became possible though in part because USSR conserved nationalism in the republics. On top of mutual acrimony dating to early 20th century and before, Armenia and Azerbaijan remained competitors throughout Soviet history and tensions over Karabakh flared even under Stalin. Both sides had grievances, felt insecure and turned to arms and aggression in what they both saw as self-defense. - While the Armenian-Azerbaijani war had been nasty and brutal, the conflict can be resolved through confidence building measures, including economic cooperation. One such step could be the opening of Baku-Nakhichevan-Yerevan railway that would benefit both sides. While de Waal keeps his distance and leaves the details of a settlement for the parties to work out, one element of the solution is clear: Nagorno Karabakh cannot be subordinated to Azerbaijan. Heydar Aliyev, the strongman of Azerbaijan now fading from its political scene, appears to have understood this as well, but stumbled in the effort to bring peace to his people. De Waal's other achievement is identification and dismissal of several erroneous but commonly cited beliefs about the Karabakh war, promoted by Azerbaijan and frequently adopted by mainstream reporters and even some foreign governments. In the Appendix to the book, he discusses some of them. Azerbaijan claims that 20 percent of its territory is under occupation. De Waal finds, independently of earlier research (see for example http://groong.usc.edu/ro/ro- 19970917.html), that in reality less than 14 percent of Soviet Azerbaijani territory is under Armenian control. Of the 14 percent, 5 percent is the territory of Nagorno Karabakh proper and cannot be considered under "occupation." Another Azerbaijani claim is that the war displaced over 1 million Azeris. In reality, around 700,000 Azerbaijanis and over 400,000 Armenians were displaced as a direct result of the conflict. De Waal also addresses Azerbaijan's official effort to rewrite history of Karabakh and entire Armenia. (An Israeli journalist Yo'av Karny was probably the first Western journalist to discuss this problem in his book "The Highlanders" published in 2000.) The Azerbaijani historiography purports that all of present-day Armenia, including Karabakh, is a "historically Azerbaijani territory" and its Christian monuments belonged to the Caucasian Albanian culture. In reality, the Albanian culture was largely absorbed by Armenians centuries before first Turkic descendants of Azerbaijanis arrived in the Caucasus. Finally, Azerbaijanis insist that the Armenian victory in the war was a result of Russian assistance. In reality, Russia alternatively helped and put pressure on both sides and de Waal carefully documents that. But Armenians appeared to have greater will to defend their homes and did a better job organizing and harnessing their resources. With the many successes, the book does have inaccuracies and omissions. In an apparent effort to seek balance in terms of violence done to both sides, de Waal relies heavily on Baku researcher Arif Yunusov for figures on anti- Azeri violence in Armenia and the so-called "Kapan incidents," to juxtapose them to well-documented anti- Armenian pogroms in Sumgait and Baku. In the late 1980s, Yunusov was charged by the Azerbaijani Communist Party leadership with creating a revisionist narrative justifying the anti-Armenian violence in Azerbaijan. Some of Yunusov's contradictory claims were investigated and proven fraudulent already at that time. But de Waal appears to be blindly endorsing Yunusov's insinuations. De Waal also overlooks the threats made by Soviet Azeri officials that preceded the anti-Armenian violence in Azerbaijan which suggests their organized or officially instigated nature. Another aspect of the early stages of the conflict is the alleged role played by Heydar Aliyev, Azerbaijan's Soviet-era leader who was forced to retire from the Politburo in 1987. Aliyev's allies are believed to have instigated some of the worst anti-Armenian violence and subsequently led the Azeri nationalist movement. De Waal also gives only a passing reference to Azerbaijani efforts to internationalize the war by bringing in a motley crew of Afghan, Chechen, Russian and Turkish mercenaries to join the war, most Azerbaijanis themselves were unwilling to fight. Speaking on his U.S. book tour earlier this year, de Waal agreed that a resumption of war, as often threatened by Azerbaijani officials, would be devastating. To gain even a few kilometers, thousands of Azerbaijani youths would have to die, he said, but the "factor of stupidity" cannot be ruled out. De Waal urged a renewed push for negotiations, although he conceded that the current environment is not conducive to resolution. In the absence of such an environment, the current peace, which de Waal argues is "bad," may be the best possible arrangement for both parties today. Forced Juxtaposition in the Black Garden Black Garden attempts to objectively analyze and chronicle events before, during, and after the war between Armenia and the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh on one side, and Azerbaijan, on the other. The conflict was the most severe eruption of ethnic violence during the last days of the Soviet Union. This truggle of self-determination versus territorial integrity temporarily concluded with a truce in May of 1994.This book is based on a preponderance of data, much of which, unfortunately, is incomplete. De Waal assumes that no comprehensive non-partisan archive or compilation of events exists, which is why he felt this book was necessary. He uses the forced juxtaposition of seemingly related events to present the illusion of neutrality and moral equivalence. With information not readily available, a generally well-informed reader is lead down a path of comfort in the assumption that someone else has provided facts and analysis. As a result, this book has already beguiled many, as demonstrated by their reviews. De Waal forces a side-to-side comparison of seemingly equivalent events, including war crimes, in the name of "two-sides to any issue". This is a technique employed when one is not willing to take sides, or when further, in-depth research will lead to an inevitable hard conclusion. When events clearly don't lend themselves to such manipulation, de Waal does an admirable job. This is evident in his treatment of facts such as Azerbaijanis cashing in personal items, enhancing Azerbaijan's ability to purchase arms above those agreed to internationally (page 198), and the role of the Russian forces on both sides of this conflict. The author asks the reader to evaluate his book as a whole with a neutral viewpoint; however, his conclusions are far from neutral. His widespread use of forced juxtaposition is compelling enough to label de Waal partisan. De Waal requires parity for the February 1988 anti-Armenian pogroms in Sumgait, Azerbaijan. Upon failing to find any organized pogroms of Azerbaijanis in Armenia, he turns to anti-German violence in East London in 1915, after the sinking of the Lusitania (page 44) as a contrasting event. Once again, further research has shown that in the weeks prior to the Sumgait pogroms, Azerbaijani officials in Sumgait distributed addresses of Armenians to local henchmen. This clearly qualifies these acts as premeditated murder with the connivance of local authorities. The Sumgait events can be evaluated on their own merits. Had he done so, de Waal would be required to actually reach a conclusion. De Waal compares the circa 1990 desecration of the Armenian cathedral in Baku by the Azerbaijanis with the subsequent destruction, by Armenians, of a small, unused mosque in Yerevan (pages 79-80). In parallel, this inappropriate comparison is obfuscated by de Waal's discounting Armenia's reconstruction of Yerevan's Blue Mosque. Having seen both mosques, it is clear that further research would have lead de Waal to either dumping this topic, or reaching the conclusion that his choice of parity in desecration is not appropriate. When de Waal's research on the Azerbaijani historian Ziya Bunyatov concludes that his writing is inflammatory, he chooses to compare this Director of the Oriental Institute of the Azerbaijan Academy of Sciences and Azerbaijani national hero of the time to a Glasnost-era Armenian journalist Zori Balayan - pointing out they have the same initials. Further investigation would have shown that in the years preceding the conflict, Bunyatov's translation of a number of original texts about the region had systematically removed the noun "Armenian" from the translation, or simply omitted entire sections. Also, De Waal cannot seem to find comparable figure anywhere in dynastic Azerbaijan to equate with the warlord like figure of Samvel Babayan in Nagorno-Karabakh, so he finds the Chechen Samil Basaev - again, two people with the same initials. Forced juxtaposition is used in the Black Garden various ways depending upon the caliber of the event. If the event is relatively innocuous, parity is presented on the same page or even in the same paragraph. At other times the comparison spans pages or chapters. This is very evident when de Waal characterizes the Turkish genocide of the Armenians as a unilateral Armenian claim (page 75, confirmed in note 5), thus denying it from having any role or basis for actions associated with national survival or self-determination of the Armenians. He contrasts this with an unsubstantiated Azerbaijani genocide counter-claim of 2.5 million people by Armenians over the span of 200 years. This is an interesting technique both; in not taking a position on genocide, and in forcing equivalence with an invalid Azerbaijani claim. Ignoring facts and giving the reader the illusion of neutrality generates a skewed perception of reality. At the end, de Waal takes the unfortunate position that international recognition of the genocide of the Armenians discourages peace (page 277). This clearly partisan stance is finally stated some 200 pages after the issue of the genocide was first introduced. The process of forced correlation reaches a wasteful level with the entire tenth chapter, which is dedicated to contradictory historical claims, between Azerbaijani and Armenian historians, regarding Caucasian Albanians (no relation to Balkan Albanians), the pre-Islamic inhabitants of areas immediately east of Armenia. De Waal dedicates 13 pages to finally establish that this topic was a non-issue, concluding that it took a New Jersey-based professor to confirm that the Azerbaijani claims are groundless. De Waal would be much more credible by actually giving the events chronicled the required level of analysis. He heavily implies that the mutilation of the dead or dying is something contemporary Armenians and Azerbaijanis learned from the Armenian guerilla leader Antranik in 1918 (pages 168-169). De Waal's precluded research on the Turkish genocide of the Armenians shows that it was common for the Turkish murderers of Armenian women to cut off their nipples, dead or alive - those with more carried bragging rights. Dehumanizing one's perceived enemy this way has its origins deep in human history, and is not a twentieth century Armenian, Turkish, or Azerbaijani invention. Avoiding evaluation of events, ideologies, etc., on their own merits assumes there is no right or wrong, only a continuum of events in human relations. The practice of forced parity serves those who are unwilling by choice or unable by circumstance to engage in an in-depth analysis of events. This method allows one not to take a position on the Nazi Holocaust of European Jews by equating it with claims that more Germans died than did Jews during the same general period. Such claims may be true in isolation, but cannot be juxtaposed, nor are they equivalent. De Waal's utopian proposal (page 283), based on a song from an eighteenth century Armenian troubadour, Sayat Nova, calling for Georgian rule and lingua Azerbaijani as the formula for achieving nirvana in the Caucasus, is taken out of context. A more vigorous study on Sayat Nova chronicles that the Qajar Prince Agha Mohammed Khan, an Azerbaijani, was responsible for his death in 1795 during an invasion of the region. Peace can only be achieved through an understanding of events and their causes, not by wishfully granting "parity" to each side. The likely result of de Waal's Black Garden is to stiffen the resolve of the belligerents by obfuscation of the historical record.

robo

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I can understand if an Armenian diaspora person gets nasty here and vomits his inferiorty complex against us Turks. They are so. No discussion. But I can not understand if a Turk comes here and gets the same level and does the same sh... I know Armenians if they are not from France or USA they are quite nice guys. Guys do not believe in legends you create do not talk about things you did not experience. Let the historicans talk. My grandmothers mother and her sister is killed by tashnak partizans because thet were Turks. I do not hate any armenian for that, you know who I hate ...I hate those stupid french or USA assholes. Just bullshitting around. ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND ON ONE EYE?? You started with the shit we ended it with other shit. Thats it. Do not exggerate the numbers of deaths... be cool open all archives and LET THE HISTORICANS WORK!

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Hi to all Armenians here. I just started reading this site and I liked it. u know y. Coz u guys dicussing questions wich is very helpfull for both countries Armenia and azebadjan's people, students and etc. So evryone can know what happened. I t doesn't mean if I'm Armenian I'm gonna kill u (azerbadjan) But all azebadjani people have to know the truth and accept as truth. I'm Armenian I was born in Armenia. All my life I'm almost been there. I'm agree that GENOCIDE is happend back to 1915. turky must pay for it. only two words ONE DAY. And whole world knows that turkys littel sisters r azeris. Robo Varo and others I support to reach to our goal. this so for I'll talk to u guys letter azerbadjani narod umbesh hektar pamidor shitillar, Armyani gyaldi vse sabirayut kitti.

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hey cemal akay..� fuck your mother and your origiONS..yor people...give us our lands...give the SOUTHEAST turkey to kurds..give the northeast to arms...hey bitch turk...� fuck your ATATURK...I FUCK YOUR NAT�ON..MOTHER FUCKER B�TCH BOY..�F ARMS SAY ...YES ONE DAY WE CAN BE FR�ENDS W�TH TURKS....THEY ARE BAD L�KE YOU.....HEY L�STEN FORGET ARMS..G�VE US OUR LANDS..�F YOU DONT G�VE OUR LANDS..YOUR BAB�ES W�LL BE UNHAPPY..L�STEN WE KURDS,GREEKS,BULGAR�ANS,�TAL�ANS,ENG�SH,FRANCE PEOPLE,SEARB�ANS....YOU MUST G�VE OUR LANDS..�F YOU WANT TO GO EUROPE....

hey cemal akay..� fuck your mother and your origionc..yor people...give us our lands...give the eastwest turkey to kurds..give the northeast to arms...hey bitch turk...� fuck your ATATURK...I FUCK YOUR NAT�ON..MOTHER FUCKER B�TCH BOY..�F ARMS SAY ...YES ONE DAY WE CAN BE FR�ENDS W�TH TURKS....THEY ARE BAD L�KE YOU.....HEY L�STEN FORGET ARMS..G�VE US OUR LANDS..�F YOU DONT G�VE OUR LANDS..YOUR BAB�ES W�LL BE UNHAPPY..L�STEN WE KURDS,GREEKS,BULGAR�ANS,�TAL�ANS,ENG�SH,FRANCE PEOPLE,SEARB�ANS....YOU MUST G�VE OUR LANDS..�F YOU WANT TO GO EUROPE....

burada elini kalem alan tum unsurlar hastadir bu unsurlar ne ermeni ne turk nede baska uluslari temsil hakki vardir bugun ve gelecekte basta ermeni ve turk ulusu olarak tum halklar kardestir kardes kalacaktir bir kac hasta unsurun dusmanlik tohumlarini insanlik izin vermeyecektir butun dinler ve halklarin tarihi buna sahitdir yasasin halklarin kardesligi yasasin ne mutlu insanim diyene

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casey!!! I can see you are new here

well, i wanna tell something to the latino guys here. that stuff between turks and armenians is not your business! okay! you guys have to more consider what the spanish people did to you! think about your history! what happened to the aztecs? or maya??? etc. okay you don't nothing! but don't believe the fucking lies of that people! Sizi pic tohumlara sizi! vallahi kafamizi bozmayin yoksa hepinizin k�k�n� kaziriz! d�nyanin hangi bir tarafina kac saniz da, yakalayip sikeriz! sizi ermeni picleri sizi, lan daha akillanmadinizmi!

hi, this is my first time to this site and i was hoping to get to meet some other armenians because i dont know any except in my family. I understand that there is anger between cultures and it can make us all hate for a long time, but, the way you guys are talking to eachother is like there is something YOU can do about the way the world is or like YOU fighting will ever change anything. unless any of us get involved in politics, none of our opinions will ever make a difference. so right now, all your doing is building up hate within your own selve that will only hurt YOU and YOUR SOUL in the long run. there is no more room in this world for people that think that fighting is the way to solve everything. if it wasnt for the hatred and greed in the world, none of us would be as miserabe as we are. so please... chill, smoke a joint if you must, but stop fighting because until you really stand up and make a difference, all your doing is making a bunch of ear peircing, irrelivant noise. thanks, casey kirby

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yes,I dont hate turks.we are friends.Hate takes us nowhere. Lets love eachother.and lets see the world beatiful. Peace my brothers

We aint hate Turks.Whatever, lets become friends

This fight, and these words will take us nowhere. HATE �S BAD MY ARMEN�AN FR�ENDS AND WE DONT HATE ANYBODY. WE WANT TO LOVE EVERYONE.JUST LET US LOVE YOU. PEACE

armenians are pathetic, u think u are something but u are nothing but a bunch of loosers that lives in the past, hahaha i really pitty u guys

You filthy fucking armenians

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Hi, Virginia. Nice to see you here.

hallo alles Armenniers friends ik ben van holland. Ik haou alles armeniers van de Wereld.

you have got to be shitting me..now you are going to conquer IRAN? let me guess azeris were there before the persians too right? why not rise up from being a third world oppressive, censored country first

Olivia thats just the poin our measaly 3 million won a war with ryour crap country of 10 million and turkey on the other side..id just shut up and spare myself the embarassment.

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stupidity is a gift from the gods..............I hope you all enjoy it.................assholes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Too dumb to speak English? Where are you from? Look at the leaders of the free countries, look at the leaders of the world. I don't think I would let them hold my balls (and I mean my superballs, not my actual balls).

Love is a wonderful thing. Ignorance is bliss. I guess everyone on this site has both. enjoy your stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YASASIN AZERBAYCAN, YASASIN TURK MILLET AMA �LUM OLSUN ERMENIYE VE ERMENISTANA. The day will come when we will crush you guys, we are 40 millon, how many are you guys? ha ha ha Just wait till Azerbaycan has gotten back all its territories from all occupiers, Iran will be ours and not only karabax but entire Armenia ha ha ha

Hey people nice site! i love it but i wish everyone got along together instead of all the foul language and degrading each other! But overall looks good i like the site!!!

xxgmxx2004@yahoo.com

Fuck the Turky and its people, for not commiting their crimes.

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Garnikv@.com

too dumb to speak english? it must be so hard being in your position, if i was a stupid azeri id act like you too....

Ermeni qehbeleri..sizin ananizi sikim...petuxlar..menim Babam sizin analarinizin yarisini tutub sikib e...belke de siz onun torumunnan emele gelmisiniz..

Fuck``All``Armenian

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Hallo All Armenians, I am from Kharpert (Elazig Armenia). Sory ik speerk niet Engels, mijn taal is Nederlands. Parevumem amen Hayer. Yes aprumem Turkia sirumem amen Hayer.

Privet...vassup..ko tatike chaxa..LOL jk uff inch vora parap mernumem du inches anum? vapshem...barev hyer jan mernem dzer boyin...turkeri mor gluxnere taxem.hye em yes hye es du vai ko tsave tanem yes YES...vinnie pooxe barevuma....ara hela seran nay ara..KAKMECH bozzulik es tatmer@ tsav cov gyada. hajoxutsoon

� fuck haydar aliyev....die bitch cominist....

oh and how exactly is kocharian losing karabagh when we still control it and everyone living there is armenian, and your country that is almost 3 times as large as ours in land and in population cant do anything about it....im just curious.

if you sounded even a little intelligent, it mgiht be worth talking to you. your media is not censored? thats funny every international organization says it is. i didnt say he stole your oil...he stole the money from the oil...did you read the damn article? your country is poor...dont make me laugh. good, make money off oil so your leaders can keep stealing it, and aliyev can keep gambling in and losing it. only in azerbeijan would you "elect" a gamling addict. it just shows how poor you are that you are dreaming of the day your corrpt leaders will stop stealing the oil money and spend it on social reforms like armenia is doing.

Officials from at least two Western election observer delegations, including the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), said boxes had been stuffed with phoney ballots, though the extent of the fraud was not clear. here is part of the article i want you to read, heres the rest-----http://www.cnn.com/2000/ASIANOW/central/11/05/azerbaijan.election.reut/

I live in AMERICA and at least ill admit that maybe there was some fraud inthe elction in armenia, but you are that naive that u wont even admit it.

are you kidding me??? do you know how much criticism and speculation there is about votig fraud in that election and about people not trusting his son...please look at online articles about it because since your media is censored tey wont tell you the truth...you know that your media in censored right?

Whaaaat the heeeel r uuu talking about foolish head. u really think that someone else like Isa Gambar or else had to be elected instead of Ilham Aloyev. listen up i already told u. loook how many people went to the funeral. as a fact they said today in tv, more than 3 million people have gone to the funeral, and it is still continuing now. how dare u say that his son was not elected. his son made Azerbaijan become the 31st in Olimpics, wher we got 2 gold one bronze. we became the 1st in karate in entire world, same in teakwondo. we r so good these days in wrestling. all this is thanx to his son, who has financed and mutually has given support to our nation and sport. look he was elected the VICE PRESIDENT OF THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL. and u armenians after that decision was made left the meeting as u were ashamed to call him when u want to make speech as Mr Ilham Aliyev. here we gooo, thats who is Ilham Aliyev. he is the one who made it clear in European Council that armenia is an aggressor, and uu have occupied Karabax. why shuld the nation not like him. i think is ur media where u get ur info from very censored. everything is in front of our eyes. Heydar Aliyev put some people in jail becaus ethey were the traitors of their nation. and even he has released many of them to freedom. there is no evidence that he is corrupt. Our Elections were done in front of the European Union members, UN MEMBERS and other international organisations. none of them said it was unfair. even our opposition was let to watch the elections. they were very happy about it. well lets see about ur elections in armenia. ur was just a disaster. the news whoile around teh world was talking baout how kocharian was fakely elected. comeee on u even know that kocharian is not a good guy for u, as he is losing Karabax to us these days. no one is stealing our oil. there is a big pipeline going to turkey and u know it Baku Ceyhan. u even wanted it to pass through armenia. nonono. u dont worth it. we gonna make a lot of money out of that project and u can watch us nice and easy. our nation is not poosr liek urs. and we thank our leader for everything what he has done to us and the country. no one has sufferd from Heydar Aliyev. u armenians think u r the clever guys. well carry on thinking like that. u liek dreaming anyways. our media isnot sencored. dont make things up ur mind.

you poor people, dont u realize that everythign your government tells u is lies???? turky hates armenians ...thats why they blockaded us... look at the cia record of karabagh...it states that its a armenian populated area that was given to you by stalin...what was that about noone thinking it should be ours?? keep fooling yourself about how well your economy is doing...the only reason anyone has interest in you is old, while armenia has the a wasy better record regarding corruption, freedon of press, and growth of foreign investment. you people are living on a goldmine and you are still dirt poor....its rediculous.

hes not corrupt??? how was his son magically elected when no one likes him?? why did he censor the media? why was he kicked out of the kgb for partying too much, why did he throw his political opponents in jail? why did he steal your oil money....obviouslt you dont knoe about it because your media is censored. heres another one, have fun reading------- http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/EL16Ag01.html-----

HEYDAR ALIYEV OR OUR GOVERNMENT NEVER LIED TO US. They never done naything that our country has suffered from. only good has been done. i have read what u virginia have posted. the article is too biased and doesn not bring out any facts or evidence what they say. they seem very biased. Heydar Aliyev is not knows as a corrupt or liar man in anywhere of the world. everyone knows him as the good leader of Azerbaycan. and even ur president has send a letter to Ilham Aliyev regarding To Heydar Aliyev. have u seen how many people came after his Funeral. more than 2 million people. even now at people are visiting his grave. why would people follow him if he treated us badly, or he did something wrong to us. Azeri Nation is not dum like u armenians. we respect people for what they do to their nation, not for their look, or their power, or whatever else. Heydar Aliyev did a looooot for Azerbayan. thats why today Azerbaijan is the best in the caucasus than any of other caucasian country. even we r the probably 2nd or 3rd best in economy among post soviet countries. our army is much better today. we have good relationship with other countries. uuuuuuuuuu. look at ur country. Turkey because of Azerbaijan has blocked trade with u. Saudi Arabia did the same. USA supports Azerbaijans territory. no country in the world recognises Karabax as a independed country. if russia didnot support u with its army we can get the lands of u right now. even if they help u now, we will still get it dont u worry abou that. i dont believe and dont reccomend u to belive in that bs written by japanese or russians. WE ALL KNOW WHO WAS HEYDAR ALIYEV. YASHASIN AZERBAYCAN

the websites are japanese and moscow's leading papers...I guess the only news that isnt bs is the one reported in your censored media. good job learning russian, now lear how to realize that your governemnt is lying to you!

you stupid moron, he was stealing your oil money!!! did you read the article? robert kocharian...sounds very azeri to me yea....you will have it back soon...i hope you hold your breath, one less stupid azeri to worry about. ps congrats on swizerland recognizing the armenian genocide number of countries officially recognizing the genocide:15------------ number of countries who dont give a crap about the 40 people who died in khajaly: everyone else

who are you virginia talkign about azerbaycan president. Fuck you hayastan. who is ur president kocharyan u think? he doesn not even has an armenian passport and he is ur president? ha? he is still the citizen of azerbaijan. u all go and fuck urself. Karabax will be ours soon. Heydar Aliyev was our leader and will be forever. all that websited are bullshit. armyashki petuxi.

read this, youll get a kick out of it,especially u robo ------http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2003/12/16/008.html--------- its about aliyev...you guys think this guy was good??? he was stealing your oil money...nice real good jugde of character.

As a protege of former Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev, Aliev became head of Azerbaijan's KGB secret police in 1967. Two years later, he took over the Soviet republic as its Communist Party boss. In 1982, he became a full member of the Soviet Politburo, but Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev ousted him in 1987 on allegations of cronyism, nepotism and high living at party expense. Aliev made a political comeback in Azerbaijan in the early 1990s, becoming parliament speaker in a government reshuffle forced by rebels fighting then-President Abulfaz Elchibey. Elchibey fled, and Aliev replaced him. While in office, Aliev censored the news media what does this say about the information you are using? lets not forget that your only sources are turkish and azeri and we all know how free the turkish press is...lol so while your sources are all censored and distorted, we have sources from many different countries, encyclopedias, the cia, etc now why should we believe you? im not trying to be an asshole, im serious, please i just what to know how azeris can expect anyone to believe them when their news is censored and your ex president was in the KGB?...honestly, please tell me, otherwise i have no choice but to disregard everything you say

if you know enough to back up your arguments why dont you ever do it??? if we copied albanian architecture then why are there not "albanian style" churches all over azerbeijan, just is the border areas and in areas that are ethnically armenian...as well as eastern tukey....dont tell me...albanians owned turkey too...im sure the turks would like to hear that...

armenians like going back into history because thats how far back we existed....unlike aeris and turks. and did you learn your cool armenian phrases, from that stupid azeri site teaching you how to curse in armenian...boy you people have meaningful lives...and you never told me who those famous azeris were since ive never heard of them..i have however i have heard of khachaturian, agassi, kasparov, william saroyan, arshile gorky, charles aznaur...should i go on...cuz if you dont know who byron is why should u know who those people are...

Forget the armenian national state museum, go to the national history museum in NEW YORK it will tall you all about the Urartu and Armenian kingodms...what?? there is no mention of azeris? big surprise! do armenians control new york too? either way you are making yourself look stupid...if all of our claims are not true that the 10 million armenians in the world must be a lot more powerful than that what is it 100 million turks and azeris??? that means every one armenian has the rain power of 10 turks and azeris...sound about right

you speak turkish you moron...its not even your language!!!!! even if you supposedly let us name it stepanakert...you claim that then the majority in karabagh was azeris....why the hell would u do that????!!!!???? the capital? give me a f**fucking break....is america going to rename washington DC Baghdad?????? even axzeris cant be that stupid. i dont know what maps you are looking at but everyone i see including the one from the cia names the capital as stepanakert....

you stupid f**k...you killed armenians in sumaygit and baku...thousands....and exiled everyone else...you were generous to us??? f**k you and your "poor azeri refugees" crap...we are generous to you because u are still alive...armenians arent animals like azeris...and i love how u bring up khajaly or whatever....maybe you should learn what happend...it is well recorded by azeris that armenians told the army they were going to attack, and the morning of the attack warned the civillians with white flags...but when the azeris tried to flee, the azeri army shot at them....so they couldnt go anywhere...whose fault is that?????? and only about 40 people died, azeris have told me all of this....even foriegh countires know it....in meetings with foreign minsters of swizerland, the minister said it would be better if azeris shut up about the incident because its not helping heir cause. why did members of the army and the former government keep blaming each other for the "tragedy"? becuase it was their goddamn fault. and one more thing, do you dont want to die??? stay off our land!

u f**king moron, u know van is an armenian word, because it all over armenia, where the f**k else does it ewxist in the world....are you that fuckign stupid??? ich means to descend....its where an armenian hero, i forgot his name, but it where he decended from the mountains and settled...... you dont even know who Byron is you idiot and you want us to believe you??? where did you get educated? in azerbeijan? good that explains your stupidity.

and for your info almost 3bln people around the world speak indo european. as for armenian, it's a separate branch of indo european family of languages. no doubth there are some foreign words we use, but it doesn't imply that armenian is from persian

by the way.--------going back in history that can't be proven?----------brickhead the churches stand there, what other poof do you need? historians of the time have spoken, what other proofs do you need?---------------------------------by the way i'm gonna be busy for then next week, starting from tomorrow, so don't expect answers.

correction: you're too scared to look at the sources i give you or conduct your own research

first of all f**k you.(just giving you what you said to me in "armenian")-------- 1> --"u can clearly distinguish that armenian letters are written there after wards"----how do you know that? what are your sources? 2.> they weren't written, they were engraved 3.> i don't care what velicho said. what he said was only part of the story. it does not mean armenians didn't live there. in 1700 shah abbas dislocated many armenians from the area to new julfa, esfahan and other regions of persia. later many of those armenians simply came back. since you don't want sources from me, i'll suggest however you search for them 3> have you heard of Ceciro, Xenophon, Strabo and other historians? if you have, i suggest you read some of their writings about armenians. Yes Armenians as a people, NOT just the name Armenia. that's way before your velicho. almost 2000 years before. 4> i don't know what the hell you're talking about. what azeri music? 5> exactly how is tar or kamancha azeri musical instruments? plese please please give me some sources. i hagte it when you just shoot out crap. 6> exactly what is azeri? there has never been such a nation or an understanding of such a nation whatsoever (until about 100 yers ago), how is tar or kamancha Azeri when there's no such thing as azeri? 7> we didn't make genocide in khojali. learn your facts. civilians were given a humanitarian coridor and the solders wree offerd to surrender? why? because azeris used kojali as a base to bombard innocent civilians day and night in stepanakert. The treat had to be eliminated. and if some innocent people died along the way that's sad. but it was due to azeri aggression and their crampy policies towards armenians that made armenians to act in self defence. 8> why are you silent about sumgait, kirovabad and sumgait? why did your mobs attack innocent armenians? and especially police didn't do anything? only after several days did the soviet troops intervene to bring order 9> why don't you talk about operation "ring" conducted against innocent armenians in getashen, in karabakh, even before the war begun? 10> you can take that dolma and stuff it up you'r a#@s (fill your a#@s with it) 11> basturma isn't azeri nor armenian, it's arabic, you thief. how dare you steal it from arabs? 12> ok fine you brickhead, your language is richer than ours.loooooooooooooooooool. satisfied? now f#@k off. 13> what are you some kinda super linguist? 14> how the hell did you come to conclusion that the churches in karabakh are albanian? i want to hear it from you. and answer the other questons. ---------------------------------------------------- you know what you're a brickhead and you've shown it to everyone, with your theory of roman word "Armenia" and other crappy theories, which you haven't and can't support. ---------------------------------------------------- to be honest i don't really expect any serious answre from you. so you can bark all you want. and unless you answr my questons, do some research on the topics that concern you, don't expect any further comments. cuz so far you've shown that youre not worth answering to. you're so closed minded that you only focus on some stupid velicho or whatever, but are too scared at the sources i give you or do your own research

wait wait wait. es berani kunem ur websites and ur evidence. u armenians are always like that going to far into history which is not even proven and try to make up history of ur own. We never copied anything from armnians. u were the ones who copied the architecture of Albanian Churches. u came there after us. and i know enough to argue my point. i am not going to far into history. have u read velichkos book called Kavkaz. i suupose not. he writes there and shows a clear picture the movement of armenians into karabakh aboutt 200 years ago. The Churches in Karabakh have existed there for long long time. they are all Albanian. u were the majority there when u were placed by russians. u r thiefs and always steal other nations history. u have put your letters on those Churches. i know some Churches in Azerbaijan where u can clearly distinguish that armenian letters are written there after wards. the color of the stone differs from the Church itself. why do u go far back. lets talk about today and see what kind of nation u r now. if u argue our points about history we will not achieve anything. so lets talk about today. 1- why have u stolen our Azeri musics and play it by the name of armenian, composed by Uzeir Hajibeyov and other our traditional musics? u shuld answr me that 2- why do u play Tar and Kamancha, by the name of armenian when it is an Azeri Instrument? 3- why do u live in a foreign land Karabakh? why do u like to call the lands of others as armenian? 4- why did u make a genocide in Karabakh, Khojaly? a normal person whould not do those massacres. 5- why do u claim that the food of Azerbaijan is urs, such as Dolma? do u know what is the menaing of Dolma? it means to fill in in our language. and u actually do fill meat in the cabbige. Basturma is Azeri, u call it armenian. 6- our language is richer than urs for 100000000% sure. ur language is indo-european which has similar words for persian as well. every language is from some group. so u cant claim ur language is juct pure armenian. anyways answer these questions. dont give me websites. i want to hear it from u

my dog was smarter than you. she know when to bark, when not to bark, but i guess the concept is too complicated for you

www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1093887,00.html

and here's the agriculture thing.----http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,109 3887,00.html-----------------learn how to make an argument you moran, don't just start barking like a dog about things, without any support

Do you know where agriculture originated? Armenia you dumbass. I can't believe you're so dumb. "No civilization"? what about this? http://www.astrologycom.com/armstone1.html ------------ still gonna claim there was no civilization? ----------then how the f#@k can you talk about ancient albania, ancient azerbaijan(claiming lands in nakhijevan etc)? Don't you see your prejudice? Or do you think i, or other people are so stupid not to notice your bias?---------How the hell do you expect me or others to take you serious when you make such stupid claims? -----go f#@k yourself, you braindead proto-human

One more point. You said--------- "armenia is an old Roman word, which means an empty area or a free land. and it was a huge area. but it was never a civilisation." ----------- man you're the dumbest person i know. ----- even before rome was founded in 8CE BC, which by the way was just a tiny remote willage in italy, therre was the kingdom of Urartu in and powerful enough to battle Assorestan (Assyria). dumbass go to armenian state museum, you'll see hundreds of ancient artifacts dating back to 5000 bc. what the hell are you talking about? "no civilizations"---------you're one hell of a comidian

http://www.sarissa.org/urartu/urartu_t.php

here's some help on your reasearch on "hayasa-azzi", just to get you on track. although i'm pretty much confident that you won't follow the links, because you're scared of the truth, i'll post them anyway--------------http://www.sarissa.org/urartu/urartu_t.p hp------------http://www.asor.org/HITTITE/CTH1-220.html#42-- ----------http://www.un.int/armenia/---(click "about armenia" on top right, then click "history")-------------------------------------------------- www.tau.ac.il/humanities/archaeology/press/monograph17.html- -------(see chapter 10)

also look at this one------- don't tell me that "Albanian Empire" extended up to Lake VAN.------http://arcimaging.org/GeisslerRex/AhtamarIslandArm enianChurch20002.jpg-------------- by the way please back up any claims you make. don't just shoot any crap that comes out of your mouth.---------and do some research on "hayasa-azzi"

kish church doesn't look like armenian? what does it look like then? are you on drugs or what? or do you just talk without actually looking at the pictures and making a comparison? here's a picture of the kish church--------http://www.azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/ 84_folder/84_photos/84_303_kishchurch.jpg-------------- and here're pictures of aremnian churches ---------- ----http://www.cilicia.com/pics/picm/20000325-tanahati.jpg-- ------http://www.cilicia.com/pics/picm/DCP_4210.JPG--------- --------------visit ------http://www.cilicia.com/armo5.html---- for more

just so you wont get confused--------------I never said Udins were another group from albans but that the udin church in gabala was different in it's architectural style from that of Albanian. The Udin church looks more like a garage. , unlike the albanian church in kish which looks more like the armenian churches.

looooooooooool. i feel like talking to a woodden pole or a tree. it's ok, i'm having some fun. -------http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~wschulze/The%20Udi% 20language.htm----------- this is what Udi is read something about udins. I never said Udins were another group from albans. Like ezdis are the same but kurds, but they are considered a separate branch. udins however are another group from azeris. Also for your info the name of an armenian state UTIQ is derived from UDI. altho Udins were an albanian tribe from the lezgin family they were generally under armenian control during the course of history.-------------- why georgian churches look armenian. Georgia and armenia have had more ties than armenains and albans. also armenian king Theodoros Rshtuni in 7th ce was recognized by the arabs as the ruler of not only armenia, but also georgia and albania.---------i never said kish church is armenian. what i said is that the architecture of the kish church is greatly influenced by armanian. don;'t mess my words.----------------------you supposedly showed some churches (less than 10 combined), compared to thousands of armanian churches.-----Which bring us to the question. What about khachkars? you don't see khachkars in kish do you? By the way i wonder what was the fate of the Truckloads of khachkars taken from Juga cemetary? Were they used as construction material? I wouldn't be surprised if in near future azeris discovered an Albanian cemetary full of "Albanian Khachkars" somwhere in azerbaijan.----------- -------- i know the meaning of karabakh. --- do you know where it originated? it originated in 14 century and references to the horrible condition of the garden following the turkish invasions. trees aren't black are they? The word is not armeanin of course. the armenian word is ARTSAKH. which according to the legend is named after armenian king ara who planted many trees and gardens. "tsakh" in armenian is for wood, "ar" is the abbrevation for the kings name. -----------as for nakhijevan . it is also named after the legend. More precisely. when the Nohas ark landed in armenia, it is said that noha and his sons established the first settlment in nakhichevan. "nakh" in armenian means "pre" or "first", "ijevan" means "stay", or "settle".- ---------- about kenkhandi. Look at what map? Azeri maps?- get lost kid.----------------------you really need to learn some history.-----yes safavid, atropotenia whatever you say ruled azerbaijan. Doesn't mean they were azeri kingdoms.---- ------------the word "great" is put for a specific reason. There were several armenian kingdoms. "Tsopq"-in the southern parts of historic armenia, "Lesser Armenia"-in the western part whch also includes "Cilicia", and "Greater Armenia". "Greater" stands for the size of the "Greater Armenain" kingdom compared to the other ones.--------------- ------"we have a Language which is much richer than urs"---- --you seriously make me lough. armenian is one of the oldest,most sophisticated, with rich vocabulary languages in the world. as for your language, it may be rich, but that's probably because in the last century you changed your alphabet 4 times. what's the matter you couldn't find a single alphabet that can supprot your turko-perso-arabic language? you can borrow armenian if you like. It has almost all the sounds a human can pronounce.---------------- --------as i expected you started barking without knowing anything about armenian history. Armenia is a roman word? Get a life idiot. where did you get all this bs? let me gues. it wasn't the website of ministry of foreign affairs of turky, was it?-------------The word Armenia or armenian is not from a roman word, dumbass. here's one of the oldest references to Armenia--- http://ancienthistory.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm? site=http://www.henry%2Ddavis.com/MAPS/Ancient%2520Web% 2520Pages/103.html------ As for the name "Hay"- it is derived from the name of Hayasa-aza tribe. ----------

Looks like u r trying to prove that something like Great Armenia existed; HA!!!. listen boy stop dreaming. nothing like that existed ever. armenia as an area existed yes, like for example mesopotamia, where iraq syria and other countries were in it. u guys are called armenians because history proves that u were brought there and u nation is Hay. they call u now armenians because u lived in that area. armenia is an old Roman word, which means an empty area or a free land. and it was a huge area. but it was never a civilisation. u tell me that in Gabala those Churches are udi. no no no. u probably know only one Church in Nich Village which is a an udi village. u r wrong again. there is no such a thing called Udi Church. Udis are an albanian tribe which are still Christians. that Church is called Albanian. u tell me that the style of Kish Churc is armenian? u r lying. it doesnt even look like Armenian Churches. it is very different. the Gerogian Churches look like urs too. what can u say about that? Kish Church never was armenian. dont tell me anything about great armenia. u shuld not belive in that. Sheki is a Holy Islamic Land, as is Karabakh and Nakhchivan. U said that nakhcivan is an aremnian word. r u a stupid or u r making me a fool. Nakhchivan word comes from Nahci Cahan, which mean land of pure/clean. year by year, it has shortened and become Nakhcivan. Karabakh u know the meaning, it means Black Garden. and Stepanakert, has been named in 20th century, because as were very generous to u, not like u guys massacring us in Khojaly, we let u to name the capital of karabakh stepanakert. but u know that its historical name and today its official name is Khankendi. and look at all the maps today it says Khankendi, and Karabakh, not aetsakh. u know that no country supports the karabakh as part of armenia. and no one names it Arsakh. what a stupid name artsakh. basically u armenians are slaves and history proves it. dont think of any empire. Azerbaijan had a massive empire, Saffavids, Atropatena, Manna, so shut up. we r a great nation. and we have a Language which is much richer than urs. plus in armenian u dont have a word 'great'. u have word mets, which stands for big. so this is another proof that u r making all this up. YASHASIN AZERBAYCAN!!!

and as for the gabala churches, they are not albanian either. theya re udi. and if you just look at them you'll see that the architectural styl is quite different from armenian

correction karabakh was NOT albanian or even azeri

it all doesn't even matter. just do some research on armenia (NOT FROM AZERI OR TURKISH SOURCES OR EVEN ARMENIAN) try to be less prejudiced, read history books and you'll see that karabakh was albanian or even azeri. Even if it were albanian, azeris still don't have a right to it, since azeris are not albanian

would you mind providing a picture of "fire-cross"? unless of curse you were just bluffing

ok. listen smarta@*. how come the crosses on the churches in karabakh or armenia don't have the "fire" on them? then you proved yourself that churches in karabakh were not albanian, but armenian. get it? also note kish is located on the border area of old armenian kingdom, which separated armenia from albania, so the only reason kish church looks like armenian is because of armenian influence. however the influence does not go further east towards baku. it is generally at the border area. which includes zaqarta and kish. here's a map of Greater Armenia------------ http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~vandersp/Courses/maps/detailf.jp g ----------- you can do your own research if you want, and trust me you'll find numerous such maps, not just on armenian sites. also if you don't believe me, you can visit ----------- http://www.raremaps.com ----------- and search for armenian maps.------------ also look at this one- ------ http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Images/Chicago/hewsen62.gif -- ---------------

HAHAHAHAHAHA you must be the must gullible person in the world...well youre probably azeri so that makes sence... the writing in all of those churces is in armenian, they are dedicated to armenian saints, they are built in armenian style....are azeris that stupid???? the artwork is completely armenian!!!!!!!!!! the style looks exactly like chueches in armenia and ancient armenia in turkey!!! does the Shushi momastary remind you of anything? say every other armenian church in the world???? Oh Dear God...How do you believe this crap your government feeds you

Armenians used to be Pagans, and after they converted to Christianity they converted all the temples into churces!...those churches are armenian......

LMAO you dont know why Byron is? He was only one of the greatest writers in the English Language....hmmm you must be really smart if you dont know that so now im even more inclined to listen to your crap. the whole world knows khachkars are armenian..,stop kidding yourself...if you look it up in the encyclopedia it will say it is a purely armenian form of art...why are there churches in turkey, karabagh and nakhijevan named after gregory the illuminator when hes an ARMENIAN SAINT???? why is nakhijevan an armenin word????????????????? why was stepanakert named after an armenian person in 1921?????????? you people are rediculous, and your countries are great at inventing fairy tales.

Who said that there are no Albanian monuments or Churches in Azerbaijan? well yeh i understand that someone who has no idea about Azerbaijan, would never know what it has and what it has not. lets start counting Albanian Monuments and Churches. in Gabala, which was the capital city of Albania, there are 4 or 5 Churches and the Cross on the Churches are designed with fire flame design at the end of it. this shows that the ancestors of these Albanians were Zoroastrs that belived in fire. and u know that armenians were never Zoroastrs, therefore this is one fact that it is a pure Albanian Church. In Sheki which is clsoe to Gabala, the first Chucrh in caucasus is there called Kish Church. in Zakatala there are many, but to be honest as i never been there i dont know much about its history and the year it was built. In Gakh, Gazagh and Balaken there are several Monuments and Churches. i mean there are many. oh i forgot in Karabakh in Shusha the Gandzasar Church very famous one is Albanian Church. also other Albanian Churches exist in Karabakh that i am not shure of their names. so here we go is that enough for u? if u want just visit some websites or if websites do not convince u than visit Azerbaijan if u can and see it with ur own eyes.

ok. since your so smart then tell me why aren't there any similar albanian monuments, khachqars and churches in the homeland of albanians. which is traditionally the north- eastern part of todays azerbaijan and southern part of dagestan

yeh yeh yeh. virginia and robo, cant find any words to say? well thats what i thought will happen. whoever byron was he was crazy probably. I am Muslim and i pray to Allah in Arabic, i dont know what about u guys. that sculpture in Karabax is ancient Albanian, does not belong to u. u stole it.

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hey blockhead. here are some famous armenians. gago from then next street, karo from 3rd floor apt 304. *********************************************** looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.************ is that what you call famous? *********************************oyu're fooling yourself

when the hell did shakespeare say that? what about byron going to armenia to study armenian because he believed it was the language with which u speak to god... Azeris and Turks need to understand that everyone else in the world believes armenia and is afraid of sanctions from turkey and the only ones defending the azeris and turks are themselves. if you speak with anyone intelligent and tell them what you said they will laugh in your face.

Then get ready to get your asses kicked. I have no idea who any of those people are...Armenia had a written language in the 5th century and we have any culture??? why are there soo many khatchkars in nakhijevan you idiot??? why is Nakhijevan located between modern armenia and ancient armenian land in turkey...how the hell did it get there???? you know the big statue of the heads man and the women in karabagh? the whole world knows its aremnian....why the hell is the language engraved in the ancient churches armenian???!!!??? do azeris have any common sense???

who the hell are those people?

U want me to name Famous Azeris? hahahhaa, i think it will take a while to list them all, but here some of them, Babek the hero, Koroghlu, Nesimi, Nizami, Khatai, Uzun Hasan, Fuzuli, UZEIR HACIBEYOV- which u always steal the msici from, and dont deny it, u knwo u do that. u have stolen the most famous music of him ' o olmasin bu olsun' even not that u have stoled many Azeri folk musics, such as Sari Gelin, lets continue listing. Gara Garayev, Fikrat Amirov, Cavadkhan, Cavanshir, Tusi, HEYDAR ALIYEV, i mean there are A LOT. what naxchivan what karabax architecture. i have been in jugha, in fact iam from Nakhcivan, and that land is a Holy Muslim land, where one of the Famous Mountains is there, where the Imams slept for 300 years. Thats in Kuran. so u could never be in that land ever. thats our Muslim Land. the Jugha semitary is Albanian, and u have written ur curvy stupid letter these days, not long ago, u do that everywhere. thats in ur blood. u probably know the goat sculptures there, thats a belonging to our culture, not urs. When it comes to music, u shuld shut uppp. the music u play belongs To a Pure Muslim style. u play Tar and Kamancha, those are our traditional music instruments. there is no Armenian instrument. the duduk which u always play, is acyually called Balaban and Tutak. thats also ours. u say that we stole music from u and arabs. ok tell me. do u guys have Mugham or Ashig sesi, or Seygah or Mughamat or Meykhana????? NOOOO U DOOONT, thats pure Azeri. No Arab or greek or else have these type of musics. u tell me specific names of ur culture, if u can make up one we will see how creative u r:))) Karabakh Churches are all Albanian. not armenian. u were brought there by russians i have been telling u this already. read velichko, griboyedov. dont read nay of ur bullshiiit armenian fake history which talks about some non existed great armenia. The only nation i know is called great is Great Britain, tahts it. what is so great about u? u are slaves, as Shakespare said, " the worst of balcks are negros, the worst of whites are armenians" see even those times u have been hated for reasons. Pushkin said " ti rab ti trus ti armenin" !!! anyways what is past is past, at least try tobe good today u armenians. u r on someone lese land. even today u cant leave peacefully on that land, cos it doesnot belong to u. its a foreign land. sooner or later u will go out of it, we will have it back and u know that. there is o point messing with people, and leaving 1 million refugges out of their homes. instead of dreaming of creating greater armenia, u shuld dream about ur economy, and ur state. anyways, armyashki, dont talk too much, just get ready!!! WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO KARABAX SOON!!!

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HAHAHAHAHA we dont have any culture??? then what is all that stuff in turkey, naxijevan and karabagh that you people claim you built? name one famous azeri...yea, thats right, there are none so shut the fuck up...the only famous turks and azeris are terrorist assholes

is that why azeris are so actievly destorying armenian monumens in Juga (nakhichevan). so they'd claim there were never armenians there?

you're hopeless you know that? lol you stupid bubblehead. what culture do turks and azeris have? your mongolian like sounds have almost vanished in the mixture of armenian, greek, persian and arabic music. do yourself a favor read some armenian history and don't make people lough.

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Listen viriginia, u armenians dont have any land culture or music or traditions. dont even compare urself with greeks or byzantens. Karabakh's architecture belongs to ancient Caucasian Albania. u have never ben in this area. u have been brought there by russians, and if u want prove read Velichko's books, or Griboyedov if u know who these people are. Tell me a music special of armenia? i have an armenian channel showing on sattelite, u r such a bastard nation, i heard many times Azeri music composed by Uzeir Hacibeyov "O olmasin Bu olsun" piece played by u people on that channel. even so much more other musics played by u which belong to us. who do u think u people are? Azeris and Turks have the real culture and traditions. Dont u dear calling us Bad Muslims, u r not even Christians. u just call urself like that. so just shut up and dont be so impresed by urselves. greeks have traditions no doubts. KARABAKH BELONGS TO AZERBAIJAN

Turks are the scum of this planet and the world will be a much better place when you are gone. You commit genocided against the Greeks, the Kurds, The Armenians, and even against your own people. F*ck you you lying sacks of Sh*t you could never be as developed or cultured as the greeks or the armenians or the byzantines so you killed them, and even today you live in a backwards as* country. everyone knows your true faces, thats why they wont let you in the EU. Even god knows what scum you are and that you all belong in hell. i hope you have fun there wile we pi$$ on you from heaven. Its the turks and azeris that make muslims look bad. some of them are actually nice people, not scum like turks and azeris once again you lying sacks of sh*t, while some of the most treasured greek and armenian art and architecture in in turey you claim that turks were there first and we just got up and left for no reason, and azeris are the worst. Kharabagh is full of armenian art and architecutre yet the land isnt armenian?? keep lying to yourselves and miking yourselves look stupider. LONG LIVE ARMENIA AND ARTSAKH

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Oh! and I will keep coming back to the guestbook because unlike your impovershed, post-communist Armenia, the internet is free.

The question is. Would a turkish guy be desperate enough to have sex with you????? I wouldn `t touch a filthy armenian even if she were glazed in honey.

well i think the turkish people in armenian chat should get the hell out of it before we kill all of them. i would never sleep with a turkish guy ever and not a clean armenian will think about touching a ugly turk who smell and eat shit for dinner.

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I dont think I am the only young person who believes that education today isn't what it ought to be. The word of the wise speaks with wonder...what ever happened to that curiousity in learning? I want to bring back the joy of discovering the world through learning. What happened after we learned how to walk, talk, and sing? Have out educational institutions forgotten the necessity of joy in the expansion of the mind's true intellect? BRING back the creative enjoyment of learning! Please join me in the effort to reform public education, so that every citizen may get a good education, and not just those who are financially privelaged to do so. Better education is necessary for all, not only to advance society scientifically, to improve intellect and status, but also to develop morality, and improve the situation of EVERY human citizen, from the garbage collector to the space man, from the average Hovsep, to the holy minister of Ph.D.'s. I've drafted a petition on the following website: http://www.petitiononline.com/jingles3/petition.html Here is posted my Education Reform: A Classical System proposal, to address the education issue, and offer a solution by a description of the nature of the subjects and consequently how they should be taught or conveyed in the classroom. Please visit here, read it, and help contribute to the effort in reforming public education. We need to change the idiocy of the educational system whcih has created the type of lack of care in learning, as well as other social aspects of life affected and afflicted by it. please join me in the effort to reestablish and reimplement the type of educational system which would help reinvest our people in the type of social intelligence that would bolster the American nation and spirit back to its feet.

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armenian churches like ST Sarkis should have a calender of all armenian familys or friends to show how much we care about our church. This calender we can sell to other armenians and other armenians can come to this church.

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The reason armenians chose to "live in the past" is because turkey refuses to aknowledge the genocide and azeris claim that that armenians migtated to those lands within the last millenia. you people are skewing the facts so armenians have to defend themselves...get it?

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The reason the map of Anatolia in the Bible is shown as Armenia is because it WAS a part of Armenia in that ancient period of time. This was also in the same period of time when the states of Bactria, Tranoxiana, Persia, Babylonia, Assyria, Ancient Egypt, Atlantis, Sparta existed, they do not exist anymore. Countries changed names, territories changed hands, people were uprooted, murdered, migrated, religions changed and empires broke up. NOW, today, 2003, this land belongs to Turkey, which is your western neighbour. It is going to belong to Turkey. It is inhabited by Turks and Kurds (also Turkish citizens) and her sovereignty over these lands is legitimized by treaties, recognized by the entire world. GET OVER IT!!!

Eastern Turkey has an Armenian history, but today it is inhabited by Turks. It is recognized by every single state in the world and by every international treaty as being an integral PART OF TURKEY. Get over it!!!! This is not the first time this has happened in the world. Flemish territories were annexed by France and now constitute an important part of France. Lille, formerly the Flemish city of Rijsel, is now home to 1,5 million French people. Silesia in Western Poland was inhabited Poles, then Germans who were kicked out after world war 1, then retaken by the Germans in world war 2, only to be ceded to Poland again in 1945. Similarly the Danish-German border in Schleswig-Holstein changed no less than 5 times as has the border between England/Scotland and Germany/France. Other nations have learnt to forgive and forget and have moved on to improve their relations with their neighbours with whom they are destined to live together for all eternity. All Except the Armenians who have chosen to live in the past.

You azeris and turks are unbelievable. who the hell build the armenian churches in turkey in the 7th century BC? it sure as hell wasnt the turks cuz theyre not chrstian... why is there an ancient map of armenia in the bible? wasnt that written thousands of years ago? Also, why do turkish cities have armenian names...like van, and ani....and why the hell was both kharabagh and nakhijevan so highly populated by armenians before you bastards started killing them????????? how could stalin have given those lands to you if you supposedly already owned them? i am sure that all of those pictures of women adn children killed in the genocide were all soldiers helping the russians. are you people insane? where the hell do you get your facts? i know turkey and azerbeijan makes shit up on a daily basis and feeds it to its population but youd think that acces to the internet and maybe some intelligence would make you suspect that stuff is all crap!

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WHY ARE INSULTING THE TURKS? I M THE ONE WHO INSULTED THE IRANIANS AND YOU HAVE A BASH AT THE TURKS, IT MAKES NO SENSE.

allah�n�, kitab�n�, soyunu sopunu sikti�imin ermeni d�lleri.biz sikmekten b�kt�k,siz yarak yemekten b�kmad�n�z.galiba sikilmek ya�am tarz�n�z oldu. look at me armenian dog.what is the role armenian people in the world.your population is 3-4 million in the world.you was a servant in the past.today nothing changed.dont forget there is no armenian land in the history,all the armenistan belong to us. if you want to live in the world honoured, you will learn to die. but you are a dishonest people.therefore you seems together in this side sometimes with iran and other countries. but there are some turkish states in central asia like turkmenistan,kazakhstan,k�rghistan,uzbekistan,azerbaycan will be together with us forever.

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I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate bitchy turks.Suck dicks bitches.Its all about the armenians.

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Listen you ass wipe, there is absolutely no point in telling people to stay out of this web site. The beauty of the internet is that anybody can visit any web site, anywhere. So quip with this non-sense. Secondly, you misunderstood me, I do not depise all muslims only that Iranian thug (and other Iranians like him) who is enjoying the freedom that my country provides him and then turns round and bad mouths America. I certainly do not hate Turks. They are after all our allies. Your attitude towards muslims sucks as does your tasteless humor.

Hi Bill,first of all, I wanted to know what brought you to this web site, it's armenian. Please, don't get offended. I actially agree with you. I hate iraqis, iranians, and all the muslim people. When they are in their countries, the like when people from U.S. (their relatives) send them money, and when they come here, and "fuck America, and all the americans". It hurts, even though I am not an american, but still those muslims are two faced people. Their women cover themselves from head to toe (that their so pure and innocent) but they are the biggest sluts, can you prove it????????/ NO, they are all innocent. I personally met a lot of women who do that, in front of their parents they are covering, but as soon as they leave the house, they take the covers off. I felt sorry for Iraqi ppl because so many innocent ppl were killed and are being killed, but now I support our (our because I do live in this country and I am a U.S. citizen and that makes my country, of course I love my Armenia and it'll be always my country of birth) president. TO ALL OF YOU TURKS, get the fuck out of here. ( I apologize for my language, if there are any girls here, please accept my apologizes, there is no other workd that I could say to muslims). And by the way, I crewed many of your women :))))))))))))))))))))) and will more :)))))))))))

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It seems like the British principle of "divide & rule" is still being played upon our poor peoples. Your animosity towards each other and foolish confronations would benefit no one but the great powers in the west and the east who would wish for the continuation of such feelings. Shouldn't Iran, Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and possibly the rest of mid east and eurasia construct a united and solid formation against the Russian and European imperialist movements? Neither one of these countries alone could achieve a measurable success compared to what tresholds they would achieve if they become united.

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WHAT IS THE DIFERENT BETWIN AN AMERICAN AND A TURK.... THERE IS NO DIFRERENT .. SAME SHIT BUT DIFRENT SMELL .. HEY BILL COME AND SUCK MY COCK YOU FUCKEN FAGY...

Q: How many Iranians died in the Iran-Iraq war???? A: Not Enough.

Q: Why do the Iranians Smell? A: So blind people can hate them too!

Three doctors are at lunch when the one doctor brings up the easiest surgery he's ever done. Dr.1 'Ya know, I just did an operation on an accountant and, man, was it easy. I opened him up and everthing was in numerical order, completely in balance!' Dr.2 chimes in 'Oh, I can top that. Electricans are the best to operate on, everything is color coordinated.' Dr.#3 laughs and says 'I have both of you beat. The easiest operation is on an Iranian. There are no guts, no spine, no balls and if you ever get confused...the head and ass are interchangable.'

Q: What is the difference between an Iranian woman and a basketball team? A: The basketball team showers after 4 periods.

I d like to take half of Iran and give it to Pakistan and the other half to Iraq. Or maybe we could just turn it into the world biggest dumping ground.

You Iranian jackass, you seem to be enjoying the freedom of my country but yet you like to run down America and Americans. I hope George Bush junior decides to wage a war against Iran next. I`d personally go, just to bomb your dusty little village and shoot your reletives. The Turks will always be miles ahead of Iran in every field, I dont need to defend them.

one thing i know the irakis are fucking you good you basterd american turk loving bitch bill mother fucker red neck cocksucker and we fucked you good with the hostiges in iran and we took our gold that you stole from us .. you fucken american assholl . so go fuck yourself you BIIETCHH. . BILL COCKSUCKER. LONG LIVE IRAN

Its a shame the Iraqis didnt nuke Iran! You people are the scum of the earth.

fuckyou el=yakup .. never i say to A DIRTY DOG TURK COCK SUCKER LIKE YOU EXSUME NEVER.. you write down that bullshit and you put my name so other people see .. but that does not work .. let the hall world see how mother fucker turk is..lyers and cocksuckers ... el= yakup KAPIR ESHOLESHEG ANANE SIKIM KOUNY MOTHER ZANJE ASSHOLL GO FUCK YOURSELF GOTVERAN TURK AZERI GARBIJE

excusez me el-yakup ,in reality we like turks very much , you are very good fucker. please excusez me , please

YOU FUCKEN BASTARD EL-YAKUP IBNA KAHPA SUCK MY COCK YOU KOUNY GOTVERAN ONE DAY IRAN GOING TO FUCK ALL TURKS UP D. ASS AND TAKE BACK ALL D. LAND AND ARMENIANS THEY GOING TO COME TO FUCK YOU TO . YOU MOTHER FUCKER TIMUR LANG TATAR GARBIJE TURK AZERI COCKSUCKER ANANA SIKIM EL-YAKUP YOU BBIITCH KOUNY GOTVERAN HAHAHA TTOOO ORUSSPU

� fuck your nation , your god, your sister, your mother, your origin, � am seeking who are you. you have born in a general house. fuck your all armeniann brother.seni sike sike gebertmessem bana da yakup demesinler. kerhane �ocu�u.orospunun do�urdu�u. do not forget one day all iran will belong to us.

hey el=yakup come and suck my cock you biiitch. MOTHER ZANJE KOUNY . IF I EVER GRAB YOU . YOU TURK PAZAVANG I AM GOING TO CUT YOUR HEAD IRANIAN WAY .. AND THIS SITE DO NOT BELONG TO YOU . I COME ANY TIME I WANT.. I AM HERE TO PROTECT MY ARMENIAN BROTHERS AND TO FUCK TURK & AZERIE MOTHER FUCKERS LIKE YOU . AND BILL FUCK YOU TO ASSHOLL.. EL=YAKUP ANANE SIKIM. LONG LIVE IRAN

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bill is wright .iran are full of homosexsuel. you are an fuck of man . �f you say unreal thinks about turkey , � will cut your head. you will leave this site just now, � dont want to see you again in this site. orospunun evlad�

bill dogerty go fuck your self iran is beutiful country. ...what you know about iran . FUCK OFF ASSHOLL AND FUCK THE TURKS TOO KAPIR KOUNY .. AND EL -YAKUP YOU TO FUCK YOU

Iran! Who wants to live in a country where the streets are dusty and scattered with semi-dried excrement, streets that are knee-deep in pistachio shells, crowded with women dressed from toe to head in Black in the scorching heat, guys whose beards touch the ground and sweep the streets behind them. Where freedom and democracy are things that happen to other countries. A country where you dont have a chance in hell of getting a fair trial-the authorities just shoot you. A country just is isolated from the rest of the civilised world because nobody wants to have contacts with a state that sponsors terrorism. What a country! I think I prefer Turkey any day!

iranian and armenian people have a very small brain. fuck of their brain. we have a very high culture and clever. ermeni sikmeye doyam�yorum.

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Just one last word before I go off. The European Commission has told Turkey that as one of the conditions for her accession to the EU is that she will need to tighten her border with countries like Iran to prevent the flow immigrants to the west. You see Iran nobody wants you! You`re a rogue state according the US president, the leader of the most important country in the world!

Firstly I am Turk, but of Greek origin, of which I am proud. Secondly I really hate it when people say dont visit our web site, the beauty of the internet is that anybody can visit any web site from any part of the world. There are NO limitations as to who can visit what. So quit making these pathetic remarks about who is allowed and who isnt. If Iran is so great how comes so many of your oppressed people are feeing your country to places like the US, where you are now. And how comes poor Iranians who leave Iran to nearby Turkey are practically begging Turks for under-paid, shitty jobs (that the poorest Turks do not even want to do). Besides Turkey has a much higher GDP than Iran, Armenia and Azerbeijan put together! Even the richer Iranians who claim to be "good" muslims go to Turkey on their holdays and the first thing the women tourists do in "Free Turkey" is take off the veil (which they have to wear in Iran, its the law) and breathe for the time and go sun bathing for the first time in their lives! The first thing your men do is visit the nearest Turkish "legalized" red light area or casino. But I suppose you are "good" muslims and we are not because we had the audacity to translate the Koran into our own language, so that people can actually read it and NOT misinterpret it as your countrymen have done. And no we do NOT rely on investment from Armenia! You misunderstood me. if you cared to read what I wrote properly you would see that what I meant was that it is Armenia that needs Turkey to reopen its borders for cross border haulage, and commercial activities. And if you have studied any economics in your life you will know that Turkey unlike uncivilized, oppressed, undemocratic, cheap and poor Iran has had a custims union agreement with the EU for a number of years of which it is also an associate member, again unlike Iran. So in other words if Armenians want access to the EU market, to buy the better quality products than everybody in the third world (like Armenia and Iran) wants, you will need to persuade the Turks to reopen their borders with Armenia and ends its embargo (economic sanctions) against Armenia. All you members of the diaspora display so much hate towards the Turks, fortunetely back in Armenia things are different it seems. The Armenian government are taking steps (of their own will) to improve relations with neighbouring Turkey, and diplomatics attempts by Armenia to persuade Turkey to reopen its border are currently taking place. As for Iran, I thought the Iraqis did a superb job in finishing you off! Iran and Armenia can be the best of friends because Iran needs all the friends she can get. Most states in the world refuse to have any dealings with Iran (because Iran sponsors international terrorism) let alone diplomatic links.

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el-yakup kapir. you say god send you to fuck armenians.. BUT IT HAPENED THE OTHER WAY AROUND HA.. WE FUCKED YOU PREATY GOOD.. DIDN.T WE.. YA EBN SHARMOUTA.. plus you have no shame you call name of god and you say fuck.. YOU FUCKEN AZERIE TURK DESSENDANCE OF TIMOUR LANG TATAR MOTHER FUCKER KALB.. ANAYEN AMENA ESHEG SIKSSEN TTOOO.. PAZAVANG.. UTANMAN ORUSPU OGLE ESHEYEN SIKE ... VIVA ARMENIA & KARABAGH

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cetina salope turk je vois que t" habite a montreal . done moi ton numero je vais venir et t" enculer putin oruspu turkish bitch et je le sait t"aime sousser des YARRAK ARMENIAN CHIENNE SALLE

look you assholl turk dont come and tell me you have 2nd strong army in nato.. your army is bunch of HOMO COCKSUCKERS . if you are so strong how come the KURDS are FUCKING YOU so good with only small arms ... imagin if IRANIANS they come WILL FUCK THE DAY LIGHT OUT OF YOU... YOU KAPIR GARBIJE TURK MOTHER FUCKER KOUNY

hi my friend hamid i am fine thanks (alhamdulla) kheily mamnoun i hope you"re fine . may god be with you (ghodafess) LONG LIVE IRAN & ARMENIA

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hallo hamid i see you have apoint ther this assholl azeri turk el-yakup he has no brain . so fuck him.. el -yakup sanen gotena bir esheyen yarrake sokajam TIMUR LUNG ourussbe ogle . MAYRET ESHE KOUNE POZY LAGOD YOU MOTHER FUCKER LONG LIVE ARMENIA

el-yakup kapir KOUNY pazavang go fuck your self . you son of TIMUR LUNG GARBIDGE .if you are real muslim so why you change the alfabet of kourran which is in arabic .. you mother fucker turk azeri .. we are the real muslim and we love our brother armenians ... and we dont go kill people coz they have difrent relegion . ther is one GOD (ALLAH ) which is evarybodys god. .. but you ... you dont know what god is.... you kapir KOUNY azeri cocksucker

parev vahe jan inchbesses aghparig yess CA. yegatzem shad kidem hondegh shad hayoutyoun ga . ASSDVATZ TSER HED ELLA . hoss MONTREAL ga pavagan hay yev yegeghitsi yev tbrotsner haygagan...

hey turk if we are no body then why you come to our site.. go to turkish site baba... live us alone.. then we dont need to make busenice whit turky.. your citys are over craouded your hungry poor like shit and your moeny has the worst curancy in the world and iran is much better contry alots of natural resorses and they are our freinds so we are making business with them...thank you byby and that is end of it.....

Just to add one last comment. Personally I dont support the Azeris, nor do I care about what claims you have against Turkey. I like most people in Turkey are far too busy making money from tourism, and our rapidly growing industry to care. Our partners in NATO and the EU are not pressuring us to do anything with regard to Armenia, dont flatter yourselves! You people should stop wasting your time and get on with your lives! Go out more! Be more socially active and invest in your country like the 6 million Turkish immigrants from all over the world have done in Turkey.

You Armenians know very well that your land-locked country is surrounded by Turks, be they Azeri or Anatolian, and the future of your country and its economy in particular, relies upon Turkey reopening its border with Armenia for commerce etc. Unlike Iran or Georgia, which also borders Armenia, Turkey has a customs union agreement with the EU, of which it is currently an associate member. However due to Armenian claims on our territory (land inhabited by millions of Turks and Kurds) this is not likely to happen soon. You should remember one thing, nobody or very few people in the rest of the non-Armenian world, care about the Armenians, what disputes you have with the Turks or about historical lectures etc. You are a nobody! Your country is NOT an economic, military, or diplomatic power! Armenia is terribly poor and if truith be known , the government has made repeated attempts to improve their relations with Turkey, in order to reopen the border etc. But it is Turkey which has ignored or forgotten about Armenia. Armenia rarely features in Turkish news, nor does it appear in foreign news very often. There are other more important countries and disputes. As for the Iranians, dont make me laugh. A country where millions of its repressed citizens are fleeing to Turkey as we speak to seek jobs and enjoy the freedom our country provides its own citizens. Turkey will start accession negotiations with the EU next year, its the only muslim member of NATO, and has the Natos second largest army, Iran however is going nowhere!!!! All you have to do is ask Iranians how desperate the situation in their country is.

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there is no iran or armenian country in history. all this area belong to us. the god sent us to the world to fuck the nations like armenia, iran .... in reailty iran is not a muslim country .because there are many homosexual there. their culture are very very low. sizleri sike sike gebertmek laz�m

hey el-yakup gotveran pazavang sanen anayan amannnna... sikkkajjjam uolan san outanman oroussbe millat turk mother fucker . you see even iranians dont like you . all over the world when you say turk they spit ttoooo you fucken feelty criminel cocksucers. WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN UOR SITE PAZAVANG. GO FUCK OFF GO TO TURK OR AZERIE GARBIDGE SITE YOU OGLANJY ESHOLESHEG .. SANEN BIR ESHEYEN YARAKE GOTENDAN VERAJAM TURK MOTHER FUCKER.... MAYRET ESHS KOUNNE AGHDOD TURK OR ME TSER MAYRE BIDI KOUNENK YEV YERT BIDI ARNENK MER HOGHERE. GETSE HAYERE

hallo hamid my iranian brother i see you know about this turk mother fuckers . you are 100 pr. corect my friend hamid this garbidge turk is dessendance of timur lung & TATAR . ther is saying in iranian ( TIMUR LANG KHORDE TFFANG RIDDE FSHANG ) HAHAHAHA... I HAVE MANY IRANIAN FRIEANDS . iranian people are good people ... like you said hamid one day will fuck theese muther fucker turks & azeries. thank you hamid LONG LIVE IRAN & ARMENIA & KARABAKH.. GETSE MER HAYER YEV MER HAYRENIK

listen you turk mother fucker el-yakup MOTHER ZENJA KOUNY armenians they live ih iran are good people they work & they dont make troubles.. but turk & azeries that live in iran make trouble & they are thiefs & their weeman all fucken whoors & THE MEN ALL OGLANJY KOUNY . you call your self muslem and you go murder weeman &children you fucken cocksucers. coz people like you aii over world they hate muslem. we are muslem to and our armenian brothers are christian & we have no probleme whit each other. we are 55 million strong in IRAN we are watching you . like i said befor WE ARE GOING TO RISE WITH ARMENIAN BROTHERS ONE DAY & FUCK THE TURK GOOD .YOU MOTHER FUCKER FEELTY GARBIJE TURK AZERIE COCKSUCER DESSENDENCE OF TIMOUR LUNG MOTHER KAHBA ZANJE KOUNY HAYVAN OGLANJY TURK PAZAVANG.... &&&& COCKSUCER . VIVA ARMENIA VIVA IRAN

look at me hamid.iran and armenian people are fuck of nation you like penis very much. beccause all of you are homosexual. you are the two nations created to be fucked. sizler sikilmeye mahkumsunuz

Well I just wanted to say that I love the mothers of the chat moderators!!! aand also their sisters too stop bein a p * u * c and talk to ppl instead of kicking out. elav ara jahelner

hallo armenian brothers & sisters i am iranian i love armenian people. iranian and armenians are very oid people we had kingdom and we have long history. but turk & azerie they have NO ROUTS... THEY ARE DESSENDANCE OF TIMUR LANG GARBIJE & CRIMINALS. all the land that they call turkey & azerbayjan belong to armenians & iranians... one day IRAN & ARMENIA going to RISE TOGETER & WE WILL FUCK THE TURK IN THE ASS .

ulan fahi�e �ocu�u . herkes ermeni sikiyor.tarih boyunca sikilmi��iniz ,bir de biz siksek ne olur yani ,bi taraf�n m� eksilir. minareden atlar�m anann�n am�na saplar�m

el-yakub sanen anaian amana sokajam. sanen avrade bajene gotendan sikajam you motherfucker turk azerie gotveran you only dream to fuck armenian girl you fucken fagett assholl. but me i allready fucked turk and azerie girls.you must know they are big fucken whoors.mayret eshe koune oroussbou zavag turk millad gotveran millad... VIVA ARMANISDAN GETSE HAYASDAN

varo, senin anan�n am�ndan girer, sonra da zevkten z�plat�r�m. unutma sen bir orospu �ocu�usun.baban belli de�il this nigt I will fuck an armenian girl until the morning

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hey magbet azerie assholl you say N. KARABAKH belongs to azeries... who the fuck you thing azeries came from.. you have no ruts no historie... you are desendance of tatar.. timur lang.. you are the cream of the garbige and dirt... so called azerbaidjan did not exsist... all that land was armenian land.. we were living in peace till the time u came and fuckup evrithing u fucking azerie mother fucker and that goes to your cousins turks

hey elaj you say bad things about armenian girls. what you know about girls you fucking assholl faget you have never seen apussy coz you are gotverane oglanjie and the bigest hoors (kahpa sharmouta) are turk and azerie woman. how do i know if you ask... coz ifucked many of your wifes sisters and even your bitch mothers. coz all your men are homosexuel cocksucers gotverane kapir... turk istiyor esheyen yarake gotendan.... LONG LIVE ARMENIA

hey el=yakup turk gotveran sanen anane sikajam this is armenian site get the fuck off you turkish dirt. long live armenia getse hayassdan.

jony this message is for you . we will never forget the past you funcking assholl turk. if we are weak so howcome we fucked you so good in azerbaijan . you gotveran pazavang ibnas gotenessikim turk ya kalb ebn sharmoutta

this message is to all fucken turks. you fucken turkish mother fukers , you come to Armenian site and you have the funcking nervs to tell genocide did not happen. When 1914 you killed Armenians you sluthered women,children an